Dear Maoist Revolution
 
 This post suffers from the  left-wing error of reading all sorts of 
 things into a fairly, general, non-specific statement of intent.  There 
 is nothing in my post that relates to the New Synthesis.  Of course, 
 given the choice between the Bhattaraist, revisionist sell-outs that 
 have proliferated in recent years and the line of the RCP-USA, I would 
 support the RCP-USA.  What revolutionary wouldn't?  It doesn't mean I 
 would necessarily support each and every statement by RCP-USA or Bob 
 Avakian.  Everyone in the UK-worker, student or middle class 
 intellectual benefits from the exploitation of the Third World.  This 
 is just completely obvious-look at sweat-shop labour to produce cheap 
 goods for the West.  Look at 40 years of war against the people of the 
 Third World oil-producing nations to try and keep the price of oil 
 cheap. The privilege of First World peoples has played a very important 
 role in preventing revolution in the West.  Many leftists deny this 
 because the truth is just too hard for them to face up to.  Like all 
 those in denial they have to tendency to get angry  with those  that 
 try to explain the truth to them.
 
 There may be a possibility of revolution in the West in the coming 
 years, I believe, due to the current crisis and the fact ithis crisis 
 may be part of a wider trend of economic decline for reasons too 
 involved for me to go into here. I therefore believe First World 
 communists should do what they can to encourage and lead current events 
 in the West.  Your point about students is true but I'm not naive, I've 
 experienced  what you are saying myself.  If you want to make 
 revolution, you have to unite all forces in society, other than class 
 enemies.  This includes vacillating sections like the intellectuals.  I 
 don't think students are likely to be the most militant in society.  I 
 think we're in a situation like 1960s America.  There were some pretty 
 militant students around at the time but obviously groups like the 
 Black Panthers tended to be tougher and more radical  because of where 
 they were from.  However, organised labour in the 1960s in the US was 
 not the leading force.  My experience of the anti-cuts movement in the 
 UK is that the students are more active and militant than the public 
 sector workers in UNISON (the firefighters, railway workers and postal 
 workers do tend to be fairly militant however).   I think we need to 
 link the struggle of the students with the unemployed and the poorest 
 who are likely to be more militant still.  I've got no problem with 
 people working with organised labour but they need to be aware of the 
 limitations of organised labour in a priviliged nation like the UK, 
 especially.  Other than the 'key sectors' I identified, you will often 
 find real problems with organising in a militant way.  Originally, the 
 Chinese Communist Party were encouraged to think that industrial 
 workers would be the main force to make the Chinese revolution but for 
 (admittedly very different reasons) they had to change their mind.
 
 I have no problem with British Maoists organising a group, although I 
 don't think people can really do this online.   However, if anyone does 
 decide to do this they have to have a revolutionary line , not a 
 revisionist line.  There's no point in organising something  that 
 throws out the example of the Cultural Revolution and throws out the 
 teachings of Lenin on the need for the dictatorship of the proletariat. 
   There are loads of revisionist 'Communist' groups around in Britain 
 who do not follow the revolutionary road at all, instead following Deng 
 Xiaopingism, parliamentarism, Songun, Castroism, the Bhattarai line or 
 God knows what else.  There's absolutely no point in people wasting 
 their time setting up yet another of these groups (e.g. one that 
 supports the Bhattarai-Prachanda line like many of the groups that post 
 on Maoist Revolution) and then blame others when they can't inspire 
 anyone to join and the whole thing fizzles out.  Leadership of the 
 proletariat is a very hard serious business.  It involves no glory or 
 personal reward or gratification.  It involves only self-sacrifice.  
 The leader of a communist group must take responisibility for their own 
 errors and the errors of their subordinates.  They must ruthlessly 
 challenge revisionism in themselves and others and not go along with 
 revisionist ideas simply for the sake of 'getting along' with others 
 whether these be individuals or parties that wave the communist flag 
 but practice revisionism.Two-line struggle is the struggle against the 
 capitalist line in the party, it is not an excuse for endless 
 disorganisation, personal conflict and organisational paralysis as 
 everyone pursues their personal ambition and refuses to work as a team. 
   Members of the group not in the leadership must learn to follow their 
 instructions and not endlessly seek to undermine the leadership with 
 contant criticism as they pursue their own leadership fantasies.  
 People have to put aside personal feelings about others aside in the 
 interests of unity.  People who join communist groups have to be 
 prepared to serve the people, not their own agendas.   If anyone in the 
 UK can do all that, go ahead and set up your group.  I wish you well.
 
 Best Joseph
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: MAOIST_REVOLUTION@yahoogroups.com
 To: MAOIST_REVOLUTION@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:25
 Subject: Re: [** MAOIST_REVOLUTION **] Revolting Students - Rebellion 
 in Britain !
 
 Dear Joseph,
 Yes Harry's article is indeed an "excellent statement", objective and 
 basis itself on concrete conditions. Though once again and 
 unfortunately there is no call for leadership led by Maoists to lead 
 these struggles, to organise or to build the necessary organisation  
 leading to the party of the Proletariat. All we have is a name of an 
 organisation that the masses are none the wiser, not even advanced 
 Workers including many Communist Maoists who view this list have a clue 
 or they are.
 Your reply Joseph is also ontradictory and plays a 'cheer leading' role 
 with little ideological and political content. Of course the leaders of 
 both the official NUS and trade union movement are a 'leadership' 
 bought off from the crumbs of imperialist exploitation of the worlds 
 Nations and people's. You state "There are clearly some courageous 
 militants among the
 students. I wish the same could be said of the trade union leaders! " 
 There is a complete contradiction is this line and in it'self between 
 the militants and trade union leaders, just as there is a contradiction 
 between militant workers and the trade union leaders and student 
 movement leaders alike.
 Why is it that Maoists in Britain should all of a sudden carry out work 
 amongst middle class though militant students (if work is carried out 
 at all and I doubt it) though criticise and refuse to have anything to 
 do with militant workers under reformist reactionary leadership?
 Sure Joseph I know your response as I have analysed your line. Workers 
 in imperialist countries are priveliged. I agree as are middle class 
 students who want a better deal albeit through struggle under the 
 capitalist system. For over 20 years now I have carried out political 
 work with militant students who have come into political struggle and 
 enter out to find good or excellent jobs - through the mill only to be 
 replaced by other activists and so on and so forth. Does this mean I / 
 we oppose student struggle? No and to the contrary! We have to carry 
 out politcal and ideological work and bring them into the organisation 
 of the working class and I will add just as we must do though opposed 
 by many Maoists in relation to militant workers in the tarde union 
 movement under the reactionary and reformist leadership of the Labour 
 aristocracy.
 We are running against time and Maoists in Britain should start to 
 unite and establish a basis for an organisation relying on our own 
 strengths and ideas as opposed to copying and attempting to replicate 
 the line of 'New' synthesis.
 
 --- In MAOIST_REVOLUTION@yahoogroups.com, josephball924@... wrote:
 >
 >
 > Dear Maoist Revolution
 >
 > I wish to express my complete solidarity with Harry's excellent
 > statement. There are clearly some courageous militants among the
 > students. I wish the same could be said of the trade union leaders!
 > As usual they are acting like complete class traitors and sell-outs!
 > Just like the careerist, middle class bastard that runs the NUS! This
 > is the institutional role of such people within the capitalist system
 > and this will not change. Let's unite with the unemployed, the
 > oppressed immigrants and radical rank and file elements in the
 > workplace to go all-out to smash captialism! If not now, then when?
 >
 > Best Joseph
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Harry Powell harrypowell@...
 > To: Maoist Revolution MAOIST_REVOLUTION@yahoogroups.com
 > Sent: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:27
 > Subject: [** MAOIST_REVOLUTION **] Revolting Students - Rebellion in
 > Britain !
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > REVOLTING STUDENTS
 >  
 > The militant actions by students against the Coalition Government’s
 > public spending cuts are showing the way forward.  This massive 
 assault
 > on our living standards will not be defeated by the old, established
 > and largely ineffective forms of protesting.  We need to find new, 
 bold
 > ways of really counterattacking the Government’s assault on us.
 >  
 > COALITION CUTS
 >  
 > It is not only young people that the Government are targeting.  They
 > are going for most vulnerable groups in society: unemployed, 
 homeless,
 > disabled, sick and old.  The aim is to make us pay for the folly of 
 the
 > reckless and greedy bankers who created the financial crisis.  The 
 last
 > Labour Government bailed out bankrupt banks such as Royal Bank of
 > Scotland and LloydsTSB by borrowing vast amounts of money from other
 > banks.  They used one lot of bankers to prop up another lot of 
 bankers
 > and they are trying to make the rest of us pay the costs.
 >  
 > CLASS WAR
 >  
 > The ConDem Government led by Cameron and Clegg is acting in defence 
 of
 > the interests of the ruling monopoly capitalist class.  These are 
 the
 > tiny minority of the population who own and control most of the 
 economy
 > including financial institutions.  Most of the leading members of 
 the
 > Government are wealthy members of this class who went to elite public
 > schools such as Eton and St. Paul’s.  It is their friends and 
 relations
 > in the City of London  responsible for the financial crisis.  It is
 > these people who should pay off the Government’s debts and not the 
 rest
 > of us.
 > UNITY IN ACTION
 >  
 > In order to halt and turn back the Government’s attack on us there
 > needs to be a broad unity of action among those affected.
 > Students should unite with other people in the Government’s sights,
 > especially workers in the public sector who face massive job losses.
 > Around the world, actions by students have often sparked off a wider
 > revolt against oppressive regimes.  These include:
 >  
 > ·                     The May 4th Movement 
 against imperialism in China
 > in 1919.
 >  
 > ·                     The French students in 
 May 1968 whose
 > demonstrations encouraged millions of workers to occupy their
 > workplaces.
 >  
 > ·                     The Greek students in 
 1973 who fought the Greek
 > army which led to the collapse of the military junta.
 >  
 > Already in countries such as France, Spain and Greece students have
 > joined with workers, migrants, old people etc. to fight back against
 > the Europe-wide cuts.  Unite and fight!
 >  
 > WORKERS, STUDENTS AND OPPRESSED PEOPLE OF ALL COUNTRIES, UNITE!
 >  
 > REVOLUTIONARY PRAXIS
 >  
 > Contact: revolutionary praxis@...
 >  
 >
 
 
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